Is it illegal for a bank to open a business checking account to a company whose owner has a state tax lien?

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We wanted to move our business checking account to another bank offering more services and were denied an account because of a state tax lien. Is this the law or is this the bank not wanting to deal with any hassle of a bank levy? The tax debt has since been put into a reorganization wage earner bankruptcy and is being paid every month. Would we be able to propose this to the new bank and have a better chance of getting an account or is just a legal matter that they cannot. The tax lien will stay on our credit report until it is completely paid (not for a while yet)


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Online Auctions: Tax Lien and Deed Training

secretsoftaxlieninvesting.com This video demonstrates how to locate and research Tax Deeds that are available online. The future of Tax Lien and Deed investing is on the internet. This video shows step by step instructions for one of the larger online auction websites. It also shows potential investments and how to evaluate them. For more information you can visit one of our websites: www.taxlieninvestorsecrets.com www.propertytaxlist.com or you can email questions to directly to us at: support@propertytaxlist.com

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How does the tax deed application process work?

I am looking into purchasing a tax certificate for property in Florida. If I were to hold the Certificate for 2 years I can put in for a tax deed. What I don’t understand is how can I make the property mine? Would it be put on the market for a bid? How much do home go for at an auction like this?


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I have a federal tax lien for unpaid taxes,the statue of limitations runs out in 2011,will the lien be removed

I have a federal tax lien and a county tax lien will these automatically be removed when the statue of limitations runs out? Or will the debt still have to be paid to remove the lien?


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Tax Liens as defined by WikiPedia

And here’s what Wikipedia has to say about property tax liens….

Tax liens in connection with property taxes

Unlike personal debts, tax liens on real estate “run with the land”, meaning a property owner becomes responsible for payment even if the tax obligation was incurred by a previous owner. Depending on the law of the state or jurisdiction, the owner of the property may also be personally liable for payment of the taxes.

Payment of a tax lien may occur through various methods:

* Payment may be made directly by the property owner or, in many cases, indirectly by the mortgage holder using an escrow account. Notice is given both to the property owner and mortgage holder when a property tax is delinquent. Hence the mortgage holder will receive notice of the delinquency even if the property owner does not have an escrow account on the mortgage, and most often will pay the tax and then demand repayment from the owner/borrower and/or create an escrow account to recoup the proceeds. Doing so is necessary, as a tax lien is superior to a mortgage and the mortgage holder’s lien could lose value if the property were foreclosed by the taxing agency to satisfy unpaid taxes.
* If a property is sold by the owner prior to tax foreclosure by the government body, the tax lien (which is generally discovered as part of a title search) is usually paid as part of closing costs from the sale proceeds.
* Procedures vary from state to state. Generally, in the event a tax lien on personal property is not paid within a specified time (and after several notices are generally given), the property may be seized and sold. On real property, one of two methods may be used: either the property may be seized and sold (a tax deed sale), or in some states, the tax lien may be offered to investors (in the form of a tax lien certificate) with an accompanying right for the investor, after a specified period of time, to institute foreclosure proceedings (a tax lien sale).

Federal tax lien in the United States

In the United States, a federal tax lien may arise in connection with any kind of federal tax, including but not limited to income tax, gift tax, or estate tax.
Federal tax lien basics

Internal Revenue Code section 6321 provides:

Sec. 6321. LIEN FOR TAXES.

If any person liable to pay any tax neglects or refuses to pay the same after demand, the amount (including any interest, additional amount, addition to tax, or assessable penalty, together with any costs that may accrue in addition thereto) shall be a lien in favor of the United States upon all property and rights to property, whether real or personal, belong to such person.

Internal Revenue Code section 6322 provides:

Sec. 6322. PERIOD OF LIEN.

Unless another date is specifically fixed by law, the lien imposed by section 6321 shall arise at the time the assessment is made and shall continue until the liability for the amount so assessed (or a judgment against the taxpayer arising out of such liability) is satisfied or becomes unenforceable by reason of lapse of time.

The term “assessment” refers to the statutory assessment made by the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) under 26 U.S.C. § 6201 (that is, the formal recording of the tax in the official books and records at the office of the Secretary of the U.S. Department of the Treasury[3]). Generally, the “person liable to pay any tax” described in section 6321 must pay the tax within ten days of the written notice and demand. If the taxpayer fails to pay the tax within the ten day period, the tax lien arises automatically (i.e., by operation of law), and is effective retroactively to (i.e., arises at) the date of the assessment, even though the ten day period necessarily expires after the assessment date.

Under the doctrine of Glass City Bank v. United States[5], the tax lien applies not only to property and rights to property owned by the taxpayer at the time of the assessment, but also to after-acquired property (i.e., to any property owned by the taxpayer during the life of the lien).

The statute of limitations under which a federal tax lien may become “unenforceable by reason of lapse of time” is found at 26 U.S.C. § 6502. For taxes assessed on or after November 6, 1990, the lien generally becomes unenforceable ten years after the date of assessment. For taxes assessed on or before November 5, 1990, a prior version of section 6502 provides for a limitations period of six years after the date of assessment. Various exceptions may extend the time periods.
Perfection of federal tax liens against third parties (the Notice of Federal Tax Lien)

A federal tax lien arising by law as described above is valid against the taxpayer without any further action by the government.

The general rule is that where two or more creditors have competing liens against the same property, the creditor whose lien was perfected at the earlier time takes priority over the creditor whose lien was perfected at a later time (there are exceptions to this rule). Thus, if the government (which is treated as a “creditor” with respect to unpaid taxes) properly files a Notice of Federal Tax Lien (NFTL) before another creditor can perfect its own lien, the tax lien will often take priority over the other lien.

To “perfect” the tax lien (to create a priority right) against persons other than the taxpayer (such as competing creditors), the government generally must file the NFTL in the records of the county or state where the property is located, with the rules varying from state to state. At the time the notice is filed, public notice is deemed to have been given to the third parties (especially the taxpayer’s other creditors, etc.) that the Internal Revenue Service has a claim against all property owned by the taxpayer as of the assessment date (which is generally prior to the date the NFTL is filed), and to all property acquired by the taxpayer after the assessment date. (As noted above, the lien attaches to all of a taxpayer’s property such as homes, land and vehicles and to all of a taxpayer’s rights to property such as promissory notes or accounts receivable.) Although the federal tax lien is effective against the taxpayer on the assessment date, the priority right against third party creditors arises at a later time: the date the NFTL is filed. The form and content of the notice of federal tax lien is governed only by federal law, regardless of any requirements of state or local law.
Subsequent liens taking priority over previously filed federal tax liens

In certain cases, the lien of another creditor (or the interest of an owner) may take priority over a federal tax lien even if the NFTL was filed before the other creditor’s lien was perfected (or before the owner’s interest was acquired). Some examples include the liens of certain purchasers of securities, liens on certain motor vehicles, and the interest held by a retail purchaser of certain personal property.

Federal law also allows a state—if the state legislature so elects by statute—to enjoy a higher priority than the federal tax lien with respect to certain state tax liens on property where the related tax is based on the value of that property. For example, the lien based on the annual real estate property tax in Texas takes priority over the federal tax lien, even where an NFTL for the federal lien was recorded prior to the time the Texas tax lien arose[9], and even though no notice of the Texas tax lien is required to be filed or recorded at all.
Certificate of release of federal tax lien

In order to have the record of a lien released a taxpayer must obtain a Certificate of Release of Federal Tax Lien.[10] Generally, the IRS will not issue a certificate of release of lien until the tax has either been paid in full or the IRS no longer has a legal interest in collecting the tax. The IRS has standardized procedures for lien releases, discharges and subordination. In situations that qualify for the removal of a lien, the IRS will generally remove the lien within 30 days and the taxpayer may receive a copy of the Certificate of Release of Federal Tax Lien. The current form of the Notice of Federal Tax Lien utilized by the IRS contains a provision that provides that the NFTL is released by its own terms at the conclusion of the statute of limitations period described above provided that the NFTL has not been refiled by the date indicated on the form. The effect of this provision is that the NFTL operates as a Certificate of Release of Federal Tax Lien on the day after the date indicated in the form by its own terms.
The difference between a federal tax lien and an administrative levy

The creation of a tax lien, and the subsequent issuance of a Notice of Federal Tax Lien, should not be confused with the issuance of a Notice of Intent to Levy under 26 U.S.C. § 6331(d), or with the actual act of levy under 26 U.S.C. § 6331(a). The term “levy” in this narrow technical sense denotes an administrative action by the Internal Revenue Service (i.e., without going to court) to seize property to satisfy a tax liability. The levy “includes the power of distraint and seizure by any means. The general rule is that no court permission is required for the IRS to execute a section 6331 levy.

In other words, the federal tax lien is the government’s statutory right that encumbers property to secure the ultimate payment of a tax. The notice of levy is an IRS notice that the IRS intends to seize property in the near future. The levy is the actual act of seizure of the property.

In general, a Notice of Intent to Levy must be issued by the IRS at least thirty days prior to the actual levy. Thus, while a Notice of Federal Tax Lien generally is issued after the tax lien arises, a Notice of Intent to Levy (sometimes misleadingly called simply a “notice of levy”) generally must be issued before the actual levy is made.

Also, while the federal tax lien applies to all property and rights to property of the taxpayer, the power to levy is subject to certain restrictions. That is, certain property covered by the lien may be exempt from an administrative levy. (Property covered by the lien that is exempt from administrative levy may, however, be taken by the IRS if the IRS obtains a court judgment.)

A detailed discussion of the administrative levy, and the related Notice, is beyond the scope of this article.

In connection with federal taxes in the United States, the term “levy” also has a separate, more general sense of “imposed.” That is, when a tax law is enacted by the Congress, the tax is said to be “imposed” or “levied.”
The effect of an offer in compromise on the tax lien

A properly submitted offer in compromise does not affect a tax lien, which remains effective until the offer is accepted and the offered amount is fully paid. Once the compromised amount is paid, the taxpayer should request removal of the lien.

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Buying Tax Liens: The Facts

Recently someone asked me some questions that I think are on the mind of everyone who is thinking about buying tax liens. People want to know how much money they need to get started in tax lien investing and if this is something that they can use as their main source of income. In this article I will give my experience of what it takes to get started as opposed to how much money you need to invest in order to turn buying tax liens into your main income source.

First let me make it clear that tax lien investing is only one of my income sources. I use it as a way to invest for the future and not for current income. All of the investors that I know personally who buy tax liens do not make a living at tax lien investing. I do know individuals who are independently wealthy and all of their income comes from passive sources – part of that is from tax lien investing. Most of these individuals made a lot of money in other businesses or in real estate and invested their profits in tax liens where it could grow faster.

But you don”t need to be wealthy to get started. You can get started with only a few hundred dollars; however you are not going to get rich that way. In order to be able to quit your 9-5 JOB you would have to have hundreds of thousands of dollars invested. Think about it, even if you are averaging 18% on your investment – how much would you need to have invested each year to make enough to live on?

Assuming that one third of your tax lien portfolio will redeem each year, and you had $250,000 invested, you would receive $88,500 the first year. But in order to keep making that money, you would have to reinvest $75,000 and your actual profit would be only $13,500 per year. If you actually wanted to live off your profits from buying tax liens you would have to have $900,000 invested to make only $48,600 per year and reinvest the $270,000 in principal that gets redeemed each year. In order to keep that much invested, tax lien investing would have to be your full time job.

Tax lien investing is big business and you can see why millionaires, bank, and fund companies get involved, but what about the average person? I have a small portfolio of about $50,000 and it took a few years to build up to that. About 30% of that gets redeemed each year, and that’s $16,000 and I make about 18% on that or $2700 a year. I need to re-invest the $16,000 principal each year, which I can do by going to a handful of tax sales. I’m not making a killing, but where else can I put my money away safely and make that much? If I continue to re-invest my profits as well, I can grow my investment so that by the time I’m ready to retire I will have at least $250,000 invested and will be able to take out $13,500 in profit each year. It’s not enough to live on, but I’ll take an extra $13,500 each year along with the other streams of income I’m working on! Of course I’ll still have to be actively involved in tax lien investing if I want that money to keep coming.

So here’s my suggestion to those of you who are looking to have tax lien investing replace your job. Keep your job especially if you have benefits and a 401(k). Contribute all you can to your 401(k), especially if you have a company match to a portion of it. Start building your tax lien portfolio now, while your working at your job so that you can retire early take all of the money in your 401k and roll it over into a self-directed IRA where you can use it for investing in real estate and tax liens. That’s my plan.

Joanne Musa is known online as the Tax Lien Lady. Her web site is, www.TaxLienLady.com. You can get her free tax lien investing kit at www/taxLienInvestingKit.com.

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Beware Tax Liens For Sale on Ebay

Not too long ago I received a question from one of the subscribers to my Tax Lien Tips newsletter. He was confused because he saw a tax lien for sale on e-bay that sold for over $4,000. The face value of the lien was only 228.28 with 5% interest on the lien amount. This was a Florida tax lien, so instead of having the opportunity to foreclose on the property, you would apply for the tax lien to go to a deed sale if the lien was not redeemed during the 2 year redemption period.

The e-bay listing said “Residential Home Near Ocean, Tax Lien Certificate.” It included one aerial photo of the property and a few pictures of the Fort Lauderdale, Florida beaches. The item specifics said “Residential Real Estate,” and made it look as though it was the real estate that was for sale by owner, until you read the description. The description clearly said this is a tax lien certificate. It had even stated that the seller of said certificate had never even looked at the property and recommends that you look at the property before bidding on the certificate.

I don’t think that the bidders clearly understood what it is they were bidding on. Perhaps, even though the listing said otherwise, and so did the description, they thought they were actually bidding on the property. Or perhaps they thought they would have the opportunity to foreclose on the property if they owned the certificate.

They may have misread the description of the item for sale where it said “The Winner may have the opportunity to move for a tax deed sale on said property, in less than two years, by contacting the county office and following all procedures.” I’ve highlighted those little words that the bidders apparently missed when they read the description of this item.

The description says that the winner may have the opportunity to move for a tax deed sale, not the tax deed. But I believe that whoever won this tax lien certificate, to the tune of $4,625.00 plus a 195.00 transfer fee, thought that they could move for a tax deed, which is not the way it works in Florida. But even if they could, the chances of this tax lien certificate not getting redeemed during the redemption period are quite slim. All the property owner would need to do in order to redeem this lien would be to pay the face amount plus the 5% interest and any outstanding taxes, which the seller lists as being only $203.27.

The seller of the certificate understood that this lien could be redeemed at any time and made provision for that in his terms of sale. The seller states “If the Tax Certificate is redeemed by the delinquent property owner prior to transfer to Winning bidder, then seller will substitute a Tax Certificate of equal or greater value to Winner. Otherwise, we will refund all fees including your final bid amount.” So, even if you knew what you were bidding on, and you did your due diligence on the property, you could be substituted with a lien on a different property and there is nothing that you would be able to do about it. My advice is don’t buy tax lien certificates on E-bay unless you really know what you’re doing!

You can find out more about buying tax liens online in my Guide to Buying Tax Liens Online. It’s a free bonus for you when you try the members area of TaxLienLady. To find out more go to www.TaxLienLady.com/Membership.htm.

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Tax Lien Lady’s Due Diligence Checklist for Tax Deeds

Purchasing tax deeds calls for some extra due diligence since you actually purchasing the property and not just paying the taxes and putting a lien on the property as you are when you invest in a tax lien. Here is a checklist that you can follow when you are getting ready to purchase tax deeds. Please be advised that this is for educational purposes only and should not take the place of any legal advice.

You will probably want to start your due diligence for tax deed properties at least 2 weeks before the tax sale. For online tax sales that require you to have money deposited a few days ahead of time, you may want to even start working on these items sooner.

1. Investigate the state statutes of the county/state that you are planning to invest in to see exactly what liens or encumbrances will survive the tax sale and what the procedures are for participating in the tax sale.

2. Get the list of properties that are in the sale. You will also want to get updates of the properties that are paid and no longer in the sale every 2 or 3 days leading up to the tax sale. Properties will come off the list daily and you do not want to do due diligence on properties that are no longer in the sale. You’ll want this list in Excel format if possible.

3. See if the state has an environmental web site where known sites with environmental problems are listed and make sure that none of the properties that you plan to bid on are on this list. If they are eliminate them from your bid list.

4. Find out from the county if you are still responsible for any other charges when you purchase a property at tax sale. For instance, what about current taxes or other taxing districts (municipalities, etc.) that might have a lien on the property. If there are other municipal charges that you may be responsible for, call the taxing authorities for each of the properties that you plan to bid on and find out what is owed. You will have to pay this after you purchase the property at the tax sale.

5. Do your own title search by searching on the name or names of the owner(s) of the property. Stay away from any properties that have owners that have filed for bankruptcy or that have IRS liens.

6. Check the tax assessment data, and get the address of the property

7. Look at the property, or get a picture of it if you can. At the very least look at the tax map (plat map) and look at an aerial photo from Google Maps or Zillow or a similar service.

8. Determine the ARV (after repaired value) value of the property. The best way to do this is if you have access to the MLS or know a realtor that does and can get the comps for you. If you can’t do that you can use Zillow or Domania, but that is not 100% accurate. Zillow, Domania and other services like them will lag behind the market. So if your market is going up those numbers will be low and if your market is going down, or is stale they will be too high.

9. Based on the assessment value and market value of the properties in the tax sale, choose the properties that you are going to bid on and determine just how high you are willing to go for each property. Indicate that on list of properties that you will take with you to the sale (or have with you at your computer if you are bidding online).

10. Don’t forget to subtract the extra costs of the tax sale from what you are planning to bid. There are extra costs such as an auctioneer’s fee, recording fees, and realty transfer fees. Make sure that you ad those in to what you expect to pay.

11. If you’re bidding online be sure to have the required funds transferred into your tax sale account in order to be able to bid. If you’re going to a physical sale make sure that you have the funds that you need in the required form of payment. Most county tax collectors/treasurers will not accept cash, personal checks, or credit.

Now you’re ready to bid!

You can find out more about buying tax liens online in my Guide to Buying Tax Liens Online. It’s a free bonus for you when you try the members area of TaxLienLady.com. To find out more go to www.TaxLienLady.com/Membership.htm.

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What’s Wrong with Tax Deed Investing?

You may have heard that tax deed investing is a great way to purchase properties for back taxes. But here are the reasons why it doesn’t always work out that way. First of all these tax sales are competitive and though the bidding for tax sale properties may start at the back taxes owed, any property with a house on it is bid up at the sale, sometimes close to market value. Then what makes it even more difficult for the average person to buy a home at a tax sale is that in most counties is, you need to have the full bid amount, in certified funds on the day of the tax sale or the day after the tax sale. That means that you have to have all of your cash on the day of the sale. You do not have time to get financing. So what is a person in one of these competitive deed states to do? How can you buy tax sale properties for pennies on dollar in one of these states?

There are ways that you can purchase tax sale properties for pennies on the dollar, but not buy going to the tax sale. You can avoid the competition at the tax sale in tax deed states by contacting the owners of these properties before they are sold in the tax sale. You can do this by finding vacant properties that are on the tax sale list that have out of state owners and by contacting the owners of these properties. What you are looking for are property owners who have already decided, for whatever reason that they no longer want the property, and were prepared to let it go at the tax sale. Then you can offer them a small consideration for deeding the property to you before the tax sale. In this way you can pick up vacant properties for less than what they would sell for at the tax sale.

But why would someone just handover a quitclaim deed to their property to you? There are many reasons why someone would do this. There are many reasons why a person would do this. Here are just a few: Divorce or other life changes, loss of a job, or relocation to another area of the country. It is important to check for other liens on the property before you do this because since you are purchasing the property directly from the owner, you would be responsible for any liens, judgments, or mortgages they may be on the property. So check that out first.

Did you know that there is a little known secret about tax deeds that you can do in some states that will let you cash in on tax deed properties without going to the tax sale? You can find out all about it in my free Tax Foreclosure Fortunes mini-course. Get your copy at http://www.TaxForeclosureFortunes.com. Visit Joanne Musa’s web site at http://www.taxlienlady.com.

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Power Through Tax Lien Certificates

There has never been a better time in history for tax lien investing, ask anybody that’s doing it. Given current circumstances, with people failing to pay their taxes and banks having high foreclosure inventories, getting a house from a tax lien investment is much simpler; banks would rather write off a note and release the property than have them on their books.

During a good economy, you can expect to get about a 90% redemption
rate from the home owner. If you consider that nine out of ten people will pay their taxes prior to you, the tax lien holder, gaining ownership to their estate. At this moment, you receive your investment back plus interest. It’s a great worst case scenario, isn’t it?

Fast forward. The year … 2008 The redemption rate in many markets being dropped as low as 50%, the housing crunch begins. This is an amazing turn for Tax Lien investors, we now have a VERY good chance of getting half of the houses we get Tax Liens for.

SUPERB! Before the recent housing crash, I assumed that only 10 to 30 percent of liens I purchased resulted in houses obtained. Consequently I would always search for the highest interest rates. Seemed like the smartest thing I could do with my money. Huge governmentally secured interest rates and a few house. Rapidly It Increased!

But now?For goodness sake!
It appears that I’m acquiring houses from all investments. Now I’m getting huge pay outs from interest rates and obtaining houses. In an auction in Indiana, for example, I bought 6 Tax Liens.
(I love Indiana. Why? Because they have a four month redemption period… that’s right! four months.) To get at least half of them is good for me.

This means half of my Tax Liens will turn into houses that I own free and clear and they cost $2000 at most. No matter how bad the market is I bet I can find a buyer for a house that I can make a profit on by selling it for $1 more than $2000. I’m in a pure profit situation best of all, if my buyer gives me a $2000 down payment on a house.

Rent to Own is your best option. I am sure that millions of people in America would do anything to get a chance with a “rent-to-own” house with me holding the note. There’s no need for a bank! This situation is one of the best reasons to invest in tax liens, rent to own your way to riches! If the Tenant pays off the note, good for them, they get a house for a fantastic deal.

If they don’t pay their note every month, you can put them out and make your house available again. Again, as long as you got enough down payment from the tenant to cover your investment in the house-you are in a total profit situation.

What is about to be revealed is the formula for increasing your revenue flow by acquiring tax lien investments in this troubled economy. Smart investors take advantage of these times by helping people out of their troubles as a moral benefit. There are times in economic history when loans are much harder to get than other times.So there.

Put on your thinking-cap & remember to invest in tax lien certificates, TODAY!

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